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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 16, 2017 17:47:51 GMT
May be we should all chip in and get a replica made?
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 11, 2017 15:36:27 GMT
The uwe stadium was a single tier where as the old mem plans were two tier. Its why the new Chelsea stadium will be three tier all around. To fit into the site.
"New Mem " will be two and maybe three tier on main stand....I would think. The UWE was also sunken down bowl type construction.
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 11, 2017 11:39:25 GMT
With 10k seats changed to safe standing you could have 34K! Dont know what the obsession is with Safe standing. Atmosphere generated by people singing and makign the noise. Whether they are standing or not shouldnt make a diffrence I suppose its all down to numbers and increase capacity.
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 11, 2017 11:32:34 GMT
26k on that site? Please be serious. 26K is comfortably achievable on our land. With 10k seats changed to safe standing you could have 34K!
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 11, 2017 11:13:08 GMT
Anyone know whats happening about safestanding in the UK? I stumbled across this and if it could be done would increase the stadium capacity quite a bit.
Standing to seating ratios The Green Guide also compares the amount of space required for seated and standing spectators respectively. As a guide for the lower leagues where standing areas are permitted, it specifies a ratio of 18 standing fans for every 10 spectators in seats. At many grounds in Germany the ratio is similar (2:1 at TSG 1899 Hoffenheim and VfB Stuttgart, for instance).
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 10, 2017 10:44:54 GMT
Mods Please change the title to Throw up Thursday!
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 10, 2017 8:53:26 GMT
Whilst I don't think the Mem is viable, would we be able to : A) Dig out a suitable size bowl to put in the lower tier for fans in the knowledge that a second tier could be built when required? B) presumably if we aren't to move out temporarily, presumably a new stand could be built behind the dribuild stand, then when complete, knock down the current stand. Then move the position of the pitch towards the new stand. C) then knock down the Thatchers end and rebuild it to match the new existing east stand. D) Then knock down the west stand and rebuild to match the new Thatchers end. E) Then the tent end. It cannot take a bigger structure without a new huge retaining wall being built. Do we have to buy up a house or two to utilise their gardens for the wall?Ground would need to hold at least 20,000 to sustain a championship club. The more I think about it, how on earth is all this viable? In the 2007/2008 plans its showing 2no houses included in the development but not sure how owns them now.
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 10, 2017 8:23:31 GMT
For me the issue with parking is a valid one. If there was a park & ride, or other easily accessible mode of transport from areas a bit further out without having to take 2 or 3 busses it could tempt more people in on matchday. I'm not the only fan I know that finds the traffic situation off-putting. Is the new Park and Ride at Emersons Green open? could do with buses to the Mem. This could take loads of traffic of the roads from Kingswood and Emerson Green. Update : Service Information This new facility in South Gloucestershire is now open. It is hoped that during the Bromley Heath viaduct works, drivers will park on site and make their onward journey using public transport, car sharing, walking or cycling. Car Parking Parking is free. There will be 102 spaces, 16 disabled bays, 24 cycle spaces and one motorcycle bay open for use initially with a further 144 spaces opening shortly. Only 262 spaces for cars but walking distance for a few GASHEADS in Emersons
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 9, 2017 18:13:17 GMT
Anyone know who owns the highlighted property's? Rovers?
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 9, 2017 17:29:48 GMT
From the old plans for the centenary replacement stand its quite surprising how much space the apartments have taken up. Not much light being blocked due to the distance away from the new houses. Double tier stand would easily fit with no apartments. The design is for an 18,500 all seated ground which is entirely funded by the enabling development of student accommodation, a hotel, offices, a gym, convenience store and sports injury clinic. Edited : - If We kept the same plan I'm sure the revenue from the Student Accommodation and Hotel would be quite considerable.
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 9, 2017 13:06:17 GMT
I have no issue redeveloping the mem. But something has to be done about transport to and from the game. As our location and facilities to accommodate masses amount of people is appalling. Football is moving in the direction where it's a family day out now, not a few blokes with a pint. The Revenue streams we require to thrive not just survive is created through merchandise sales, corporate sales, more bums in seats etc. To do this we desperately need to start attracting and marketing towards youngsters and offering deals otherwise we risk losing an entire generation. Its a shame we didn't build the carpark at the UWE we could then bus people over. Wael get on the Phone!!!
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 9, 2017 12:40:08 GMT
Someone on here mentioned about the bus station or the old B&Q could be used as carparks and Markets/Carboot. So we're going to buy real estate probably worth £m's just for a car park? You do wonder what planet some of our fans live on! So we were going to buy the UWE and build a cark park on real estate probably worth £m's just for a carpark?
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 9, 2017 12:34:28 GMT
We could build a new stand on the car park and move everything over, but that means more on street parking. Brentford have started building their new ground, but for a few miles around the present ground there is a residents parking only scheme, and it means that supporters have to get to the ground on public transport. Brentford has a bus every 2 minutes. The train station is 5 minutes away, the tube 30 minutes walking. What would we do if they imposed a residents parking only scheme around the Mem? My second point is that the UWE could be expanded but whatever the Mem is built to it cannot be expanded. I guess it will be around 18k. Someone on here mentioned about the bus station or the old B&Q could be used as carparks and Markets/Carboot.
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 9, 2017 10:36:15 GMT
the parking around the Mem is horrible already, a bigger stadium, and let's face it when attendances are 8k it can be difficult to park, if we were to sell out an 18k or whatever it might be, you be lucky to park in the same post code. There will be lots of objections and I personally don't see it ever getting going. Wael ought to swallow his pride and get back around the table with UWE, a Mem full redevelopment is 10 years away or not happening. Yes but we have the Metro Bus and its going to sort everything! so don't worry!
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 9, 2017 10:00:53 GMT
I heard a rumor last night that Sainsburys have approached us wanting to build and under ground carpark and store with our stadium on top!! You heard it here first!
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 5, 2017 11:03:53 GMT
Gashead1981 this makes a little scene! maybe that's why they did not buy it for our training ground, they head a bigger picture planned for the land? I have just had a look on google earth and the existing training ground and Clifton rugby club together has more land than the UWE. Even has a train line running by the side of it! perfect!! I did exactly the same!! Only because I started to think....where else in Bristol could we realistically put a stadium. Here or Rolls Royce area are the only viable plots. RR and Fulton runway are expensive plots and earmarked for other forms of development. The site at Cribbs is an existing sports ground, can still be used for all the same purposes it is now if a stadium was built on it. Very close to our training ground site, so effectively everything will be in a very close radius. Add to that its positioning to major shopping areas and on a direct route into Bristol. It could be the perfect site... Redmaids' High School have just bought the Training ground but still could be enough land for the stadium.
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 5, 2017 9:47:12 GMT
I spoke to him via instagram the other day and he replied to every question I put to him. I posted some of the info on another thread. Long and short of it is that the deal wasn't good enough for the club. They stated what was acceptable and had until July 31 to meet the proposal. UWE didn't come back. The club also had to do another round of planning and feasibility studies because the environment changed. That took time. Wael's massive concern was the fact that it was out of town, we would become a nomad club, with a massive facility away from central Bristol where there isn't the number of residential properties to make use of what a stadium can offer. (I do see his point on this). My own personal opinion is that we will be looking for a site at Cribbs Causeway, my thinking is possibly the existing training ground site and whatever Clifton Rugby Club have. We have an existing relationship there, maybe the landowners would like to do a deal...?? Better transport links, close to the mall, not so out of town, not far from our current location. Gashead1981 this makes a little scene! maybe that's why they did not buy it for our training ground, they head a bigger picture planned for the land? I have just had a look on google earth and the existing training ground and Clifton rugby club together has more land than the UWE. Even has a train line (Henbury Loop) running by the side of it! perfect!!
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 5, 2017 9:11:18 GMT
I spoke to him via instagram the other day and he replied to every question I put to him. I posted some of the info on another thread. Long and short of it is that the deal wasn't good enough for the club. They stated what was acceptable and had until July 31 to meet the proposal. UWE didn't come back. The club also had to do another round of planning and feasibility studies because the environment changed. That took time. Wael's massive concern was the fact that it was out of town, we would become a nomad club, with a massive facility away from central Bristol where there isn't the number of residential properties to make use of what a stadium can offer. (I do see his point on this). My own personal opinion is that we will be looking for a site at Cribbs Causeway, my thinking is possibly the existing training ground site and whatever Clifton Rugby Club have. We have an existing relationship there, maybe the landowners would like to do a deal...?? Better transport links, close to the mall, not so out of town, not far from our current location. Has he seen the number of new houses going up around the UWE???
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 5, 2017 9:08:37 GMT
We must not forget that the new board took over the old boards offer for the UWE and where desperate to get a deal done at any cost. The numbers/deal doesn't stack up so it can now be done their way now.
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 5, 2017 8:41:05 GMT
This episode has certainly shown who are the strong fans and who are the weak ones.After hearing all the interviews my view is that the present regime had to overcome the previous regimes contract with UWE. We are seeking a better one for our club and ito long term future so isn't that better? All this fear talk about everyone leaving isn't based on fact and is counter productive, what is the point of that? My advice to the weak who have an immature need to call owners and employees of our club names is to be strong, stop moaning think positive and support the club as well as the team. RE - the bit in bold. The fear is based on the very clear fact that Dwayne Sports have placed a charge against the Mem. The spending we are seeing is not from the AQs injecting money that they are prepared to lose. At any point the debt can be called in, and that will leave the club homeless. I don't think fans are being weak for recognising this. I think we are realising that serious questions need to be asked We as a fanbase can't afford to be apathetic. If the worse were to happen I couldn't sleep at night feeling I saw it coming but decided to say nothing in favour if "keeping the faith". EDIT: Probably worth saying I don't agree with the way many fans are expressing concern. We need to keep it respectable. They own both companies, if they call the debt in they would have to then find the money to pay Dwane sports??
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