Crime in London

In many ways there is only so much a government, or the Police, can do to stop it. I may be a bit old fashioned, but what are the parents/community doing about it?

The backward breeding the imbecilic.  That`s your parents/community.
Scarcely a wonder, that they do nothing to help.

Not just that
look at that old hero fought off and killed a burglar whose whole family were involved with crime ,has to put up with the rip messages , alleged threats and messages of sympathy to the burglar ,makes your skin crawl.

kid killed in henbury after being pillion on a stolen bike ,so many people claiming he was an absolutely lovely kid ,then turning verbally on the motorcycle community who said good riddance to the thieving scum ,thankfully one less bike thief.

What should happen is if arrested with a knife you should be either locked up till you die of old age or be hung,drawn and quartered ,even better give em to the armed forces for either shooting or bayonet practice , by knife i dont mean small knifes you may forget you have i mean anything over 4 inches or a kitchen type knife ,lets face it you aint cooking on a street at 2am.

Did you hear Amber Rudd saying there is no connection between over 19,000 police cuts, and the murder rate in London at an all time high!!!
Its just a coincidence.....! LMFAO!

You could recruit 19000+ new police officers but what difference would it make if they are too afraid to do stop and search for PoliticalCorrectness reasons?

Even if we had more police officers they would make the arrests and our liberal courts would let them straight back out on bail or community sentences which they ignore.

The rise in murders in london is directly linked to the massive cuts imposed by this lousy government especially in community policing.

Are you sure ,could it be the mimicking of the american gang scene ,people wanting instant gratification for clothes and trainers ,without having to save ,making good money from the sale of drugs ,feeling big as they have money girls .
to be fair i feel even if you had an armed plod on every corner it would still continue ,look at the us lots of plod who tend to shoot to kill but still the same old gang problems ,i'm pro legalising some drugs ,however if that happened a large part of the gangs money source would disappear which would just push up the mugging and burglary rates.

The answer is difficult as atm as someone mentioned courts just give a slap on the wrist and totally lenient sentences ,i thing possession of a blade gets 2 years ,which in reality is less than a year or even less if you were remanded till court.

We should do the 3 strikes and your out thing some american states do i know some will say oh he got life for stealing a packet of crisps but  if someone is one step away from a real life sentence then tough tits ,we should also sentance like the yanks ,i.e run concurrent jail terms for each offence for example say you stabbed 3 people and the max sentence was 10 years for a stabbing then as more than one offence occurs you immediately get the max 10 years for each offence and you bloody well stay there for 30 years ,any gains from your crimes should result in more use of the proceeds of crime act.

You can run as many workshops or courses as you want but a lot of these gang members would still join a gang ,the people at the top of these gangs should be locked up for life i.m.o as long as they are out they will still recruit members with little risk from the law

I remember a program on talk sport in the early nineties about gang violence in america ,the guy being interviewed was a black guy who was trying to turn peoples lives around in the us ,the one thing he did say is that we were about 20 odd years behind the us in gang culture and that it would get bad over here before it got better ,the majority of callers said it won't happen here etc ,lo and behold we seen to have arrived at that point.

In what way has locking someone up for a longer time been a failure interested to know.

In my opinion the CPS and the courts are making crime easier as when people are caught they either get let off or are given stupidly short sentences not just gang members but all sorts of other crimes.
If high crime areas were policed like football is policed the crime rate would drop ,if they policed like the did in the 80's crime would drop ,by that i mean if people were causing hassle in one area then they would harass the local big time criminals and that would stop a lot of the other crimes.
The other thing is nowadays it's easier for the police to nick soft targets as it normally results in a conviction which skews the figure in their favour,ie better clean up rates.
One thing that galls is they can spare people in london to look after the shops and go after shoplifters ,but cant seem to let those cops focus on worse crime.

There are a very interesting set of websites about a&s which tells the story of bristol plod going after a pedo ring in bristol, what stands out is the officers involved were told not to bother with it as the focus was on speeding motorists or similar at that time ,it goes on to show those involved basically working for free to arrest those scum, cant remember the sites but a quick google will lead you there ,it also goes on to explain how plod in bristol became one of the leading authorities on catching pedo's ,it also shows in a way how crime gets prioritised and not in the right order.

Another thing no one has mentioned is a lot of people trust the police less than criminals these days, it doesn't inspire people especially when an officer in bristol tasers one of their own race relations bloke in the face and initially lies about it, or another is seen picking a target to smash over the head leaving a football ground only to get away with it and get praised by the senior officer ,until people like those who are unfit to police are removed what chance have we of them cracking down on serious crimes like our young murdering each other

Oh he looks scary.
In fact you could say he raven bonkers!