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Post by chewbacca on Jan 29, 2021 8:41:10 GMT
Dobson: P12 W1 D2 L9 Pts5 PPG0.42 W%8.33 Penney: P13 W2 D2 L9 Pts8 PPG0.66 W%15.38 Cooper: P68 W13 D19 L36 Pts58 PPG0.85 W%19.1 McGhee: P45 W12 W12 L21 Pts48 PPG1.06 W%26.6 Graydon: P81 W22 D22 L37 Pts88 PPG1.09 W%27.2 Garner: P11 W3 D3 L5 Pts14 PPG1.27 W%27.27 Jarman: P24 W7 D9 L8 Pts30 PPG1.25 W%29.16 Tisdale: P10 W3 D1 L6 Pts10 PPG1 W%30
Not sure how many of those managers managed to sign 23, 24 if you count JML twice over an 11 month period...
I may be missing something but if Garner's record is won 3 drawn 3 lost 5 isn't that 12 points not 14 and therefore 1.1 points per game? Yep. Cocked that right up, didn't I!
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 28, 2021 16:19:13 GMT
Your point is? I can remember him saying it a few times, as I felt he was wrong at the time. The article you shared he says he tried to sign a winger and that he wants to improve in the final third. He did not mention a striker. He used to play a lot of games with one up front around then. He even played Daly out wide a few times. Either way, he still said we were ok for strikers a number of times.. I can remember him saying is nonsense. You can’t just make stuff up. The point is in September he was in the paper saying he wanted one or two more in Hanlans position. At that time he had Daly, Ayunga and Hanlan. A few days later he loses Ayunga to injury. A few weeks later after not signing the attacking player / like Hanlan and not replacing Ayunga he confirms he is happy with the squad and that is all he has to work with. The board didn’t get the striker we need and the manager comes out and puts a brave face on it because what else can he say?? You're damn right, Ben.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 27, 2021 22:39:43 GMT
Wonderfully put John.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 27, 2021 16:28:31 GMT
The ball:
•Must be stationary and the kicker must not touch the ball again until it has touched another player. •Is in play when it is kicked and clearly moves except for a free kick to the defending team in their penalty area where the ball is in play when it is kicked directly out of the penalty area.
Until the ball is in play all opponents must remain:
•at least 9.15 m (10 yds) from the ball, unless they are on their own goal line between the goalposts. •outside the penalty area for free kicks inside the opponents’ penalty area.
Where three or more defending team players form a ‘wall’, all attacking team players must remain at least 1 m (1 yd) from the ‘wall’ until the ball is in play. A free kick can be taken by lifting the ball with a foot or both feet simultaneously.
Feinting to take a free kick to confuse opponents is permitted as part of football.
If a player, while correctly taking a free kick, deliberately kicks the ball at an opponent in order to play the ball again but not in a careless or reckless manner or using excessive force, the referee allows play to continue.
Next time I'm allowed on a pitch, I'm two-footing every free kick. As opposed to opposition players and making me bail you out with penalty saves?
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 27, 2021 16:21:24 GMT
It's nothing to do with the referee whether the defending team decide to create a wall. I get that it can be frustrating when a potential "advantage" could be gained by taking a quick free kick, but we'd all moan if it was us defending, and the opposition scored because our players were still getting back or had stopped, expecting a few seconds to get organised. I can't be bothered finding the official wording of the law re: quick free kicks (or even if there is one), perhaps chewbacca may know? The ball:
•Must be stationary and the kicker must not touch the ball again until it has touched another player. •Is in play when it is kicked and clearly moves except for a free kick to the defending team in their penalty area where the ball is in play when it is kicked directly out of the penalty area.
Until the ball is in play all opponents must remain:
•at least 9.15 m (10 yds) from the ball, unless they are on their own goal line between the goalposts. •outside the penalty area for free kicks inside the opponents’ penalty area.
Where three or more defending team players form a ‘wall’, all attacking team players must remain at least 1 m (1 yd) from the ‘wall’ until the ball is in play. A free kick can be taken by lifting the ball with a foot or both feet simultaneously.
Feinting to take a free kick to confuse opponents is permitted as part of football.
If a player, while correctly taking a free kick, deliberately kicks the ball at an opponent in order to play the ball again but not in a careless or reckless manner or using excessive force, the referee allows play to continue.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 27, 2021 15:01:27 GMT
RIP Brian, always had the club at heart. Will be missed by many.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 27, 2021 14:43:06 GMT
Ten consecutive weeks of Saturday - Tuesday - Saturday with 21 games in 70 days is utterly insane. When you say it like that it is quite stark how big the task is! Those with a cup run could fade quite badly too & we could see quite a number of unexpected results! A game every 3.33 days for two and a half months. Utterly insane.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 27, 2021 14:01:25 GMT
Ten consecutive weeks of Saturday - Tuesday - Saturday with 21 games in 70 days is utterly insane.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 27, 2021 12:23:46 GMT
Both loaned out to leagues that have been either stopped or paused. Pablo still playing for Glos City I thought although I understand Jones is back with our u23s as Weston no longer playing National League North has paused. As has the National League South where Pablo is cutting his teeth.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 27, 2021 11:51:44 GMT
I agree with most of the loan out suggestions, except maybe Cam Hargreaves. His energy and ability to cover a few positions could be invaluable - especially from the bench. Would loan JVS too maybe. Dont we also have Martinez and the Weston-S-M guy out on loan? Both loaned out to leagues that have been either stopped or paused.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 27, 2021 11:46:39 GMT
If you think the coverage is roughly the same go online to Bristol Live which is BP's online site. Don't click on Rovers at the top of the page, just scroll down the main page until you come to their sports coverage, or should I say darkside coverage, plenty about them, naff all about us! That's how it is everyday unles something major happens to us like we sack a manager, then we might get a paragraph. Articles on the front page of the Bristol Live website will be revenue driven, City's articles will garner more hits so have been stuck on the front page. Just because our articles are one click further away doesn't mean that we receive any less coverage, just that we don't make the group as much money.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 27, 2021 11:22:25 GMT
I always find these sorts of threads fun, you get them on ours and City's forums. They claim bias against their club, and toward their rival. In fact you get it on every football club's forum. Ah, football fans. You genuinely think the BP's coverage of BRFC is to the same level as their coverage of BCFC? I think coverage is roughly the same, I think editorially the paper insists on it. If there's a big story surrounding one club or the other, obviously coverage will be heightened at that time but generally I'd say the coverage is of a similar level.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 27, 2021 11:02:22 GMT
I always find these sorts of threads fun, you get them on ours and City's forums. They claim bias against their club, and toward their rival. In fact you get it on every football club's forum. Ah, football fans.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 26, 2021 21:27:26 GMT
Proper grafting effort that, could have potentially won it as well. Much, much better.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 26, 2021 16:00:32 GMT
No thanks our scouts should identify the next non league Barry Hayles, we need a player who can go straight in and make a difference. We paid £250,000 for Barry Haylea 23 years ago, unfortunately, I don't think there is currently anyone in non league who's as good, and if there was, then I think they would cost a lot more than £250k. Hence why we signed Jonah Ayunga. There's not those types of players in the Conference atm either, look at the Golden Boot list;
-Michael Cheek, 29 years old and a decent Conference level goalscorer. -Sam Barrett, 25 years old and didn't work last season for Southend Utd. -Tom Denton, 31 years old and a decent Conference level goalscorer. -Dan Wright, 36 years old. -John Rooney, 30 years old and a decent Conference level goalscorer.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 26, 2021 13:50:39 GMT
Dobson: P12 W1 D2 L9 Pts5 PPG0.42 W%8.33 Penney: P13 W2 D2 L9 Pts8 PPG0.66 W%15.38 Cooper: P68 W13 D19 L36 Pts58 PPG0.85 W%19.1 McGhee: P45 W12 W12 L21 Pts48 PPG1.06 W%26.6 Graydon: P81 W22 D22 L37 Pts88 PPG1.09 W%27.2 Garner: P11 W3 D3 L5 Pts14 PPG1.27 W%27.27 Jarman: P24 W7 D9 L8 Pts30 PPG1.25 W%29.16 Tisdale: P10 W3 D1 L6 Pts10 PPG1 W%30
Not sure how many of those managers managed to sign 23, 24 if you count JML twice over an 11 month period...
Interesting stats, thanks cb. I see Jarman in there with a lowish, but not bad win %. I may be wrong and haven’t checked but pretty sure those games were in Division 2, now the Championship. If so I’m surprised you included him though I’m presuming it’s because his win % is set between BG and Tis. His PPG would put him much higher of course. UTG! I just included all historical managers, it's impossible to drill down into different leagues value.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 26, 2021 13:18:04 GMT
Win parentage is slightly misleading, the PPG stats are more important. So on current form, this season, we sacked a manager with 1.27ppg including playing 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th?? They're both crap.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 26, 2021 13:17:10 GMT
Dobson: P12 W1 D2 L9 Pts5 PPG0.42 W%8.33 Penney: P13 W2 D2 L9 Pts8 PPG0.66 W%15.38 Cooper: P68 W13 D19 L36 Pts58 PPG0.85 W%19.1 McGhee: P45 W12 W12 L21 Pts48 PPG1.06 W%26.6 Graydon: P81 W22 D22 L37 Pts88 PPG1.09 W%27.2 Garner: P11 W3 D3 L5 Pts14 PPG1.27 W%27.27 Jarman: P24 W7 D9 L8 Pts30 PPG1.25 W%29.16 Tisdale: P10 W3 D1 L6 Pts10 PPG1 W%30
Not sure how many of those managers managed to sign 23, 24 if you count JML twice over an 11 month period...
If you can name 23 players Garner signed I will genuinely be impressed 1. Josh Barrett, 2. James Daly, 3. Cian Harries, 4. Jayden Mitchell-Lawson, 5. Josh Ginnelly, 6. Jamal Blackman, 7. Timmy Abraham, 8. Josh Grant, 9. Jack Baldwin, 10. Max Ehmer, 11. Sam Nicholson, 12. Jonah Ayunga, 13. Zain Westbrooke, 14. Pablo Martinez, 15. David Tutonda, 16. Brandon Hanlan, 17. Ben Liddle, 18. Ryan Jones, 19. Ali Koiki, 20. Luke McCormick, 21. Erhun Oztumer, 22. Jayden Mitchell-Lawson again.
Apologies, I counted Day and Williams in my initial number.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 26, 2021 12:48:39 GMT
Dobson: P12 W1 D2 L9 Pts5 PPG0.42 W%8.33 Penney: P13 W2 D2 L9 Pts8 PPG0.66 W%15.38 Cooper: P68 W13 D19 L36 Pts58 PPG0.85 W%19.1 McGhee: P45 W12 W12 L21 Pts48 PPG1.06 W%26.6 Graydon: P81 W22 D22 L37 Pts88 PPG1.09 W%27.2 Garner: P11 W3 D3 L5 Pts14 PPG1.27 W%27.27 Jarman: P24 W7 D9 L8 Pts30 PPG1.25 W%29.16 Tisdale: P10 W3 D1 L6 Pts10 PPG1 W%30
Not sure how many of those managers managed to sign 23, 24 if you count JML twice over an 11 month period...
The bit that worries me is that Tisdales win % at this level before he joined us was 31%. He is currently averaging 30% after 10 games, which is his managerial ability average. In an average season you need a 36% win ratio to stay up. So unless he pulls a rabbit out of the hat, we are favourites for relelgation. It also begs the question why the hell we employed a manager who has twice failed at this level bar 1 good season. Win parentage is slightly misleading, the PPG stats are more important.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 26, 2021 12:47:29 GMT
Hearts are a much bigger club with us, with a bigger budget. Sure they're in the Championship this season but there is no comparison to be had with us. No they are not a "much" bigger club than us.They are bigger agreed, but that's only because they are after the two Glasgow sides one of the bigger clubs in scotland but they are not much bigger than us.There crowds are not that much greater than ours in a decent stadium, and the wages they would be able to offer would only be slightly higher than clubs in L1 could offer. Regarding their crowds, their ten year average of 15,560 would equate to our largest attendance since 1977, our average attendance over that ten year period is 47% that of Hearts. That average has Tynecastle 78% full compared to the Mem being 59% full during the same period. Hearts have won 16 major honours and have had 22 campaigns in Europe, Rovers have had zero of both. Edinburgh has a population of 482,005 (as of 2011) compared to Bristol's population of 467,099 (as of 2019). That means on average 3% of the population of Edinburgh attend Hearts games, we have 1.5% of the population of Bristol attend ours. According to Salary Sports in 2020 (you can take this with a pinch of salt) Hearts yearly salary was just over £4,000,000 compared to £3,200,000 for Rovers on the same website.
Bar all of that, you might be onto something.
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