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Post by oviedista on Aug 3, 2017 19:38:14 GMT
"blind faith like yours are exactly why we are light years behind them" That makes the blind of faith if fans the cause - so the attitude of fans at City must account for their success right? No its just why we are falling behind everyone in general, even DC admits we are behind in terms of infrastructure and stadium. It wasn't always that way; other clubs have progressed, City by way of having a billionaire funding them, and we have stood still whilst other clubs strive to improve. It always "tomorrow" with this club. Look at the UWE thread and the endless "is today the day?" posts. Today is never the day. People promise to deliver and dont, then dont have the guts to address the fans when things go tits up. So is it our blind faith or their billionaire funding them that explains why we are "light years behind"? Or the fact that they weren't booted out of the City for 10 years? Or the fact that they have always had their own ground? Or the fact that they have land to expand on? There are clubs in better positions and clubs in worse (much worse). It's football and them's the breaks. In many ways we're lucky we still exist - don't knock positivity it's also just perspective.
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Post by oviedista on Aug 3, 2017 19:04:45 GMT
Hang on... so City are in the position they're in because of the negative attitude of their fans? I didn't say that, I said we are already behind them (and have been for 17 years) and falling behind everyone else as we seem intent on settling for long drawn out projects with months and months of silence before the inevitable defeat at the end. Had the news on the stadium been positive would Wael have sent Hamer out to bask in the glory? or course not. "blind faith like yours are exactly why we are light years behind them" That makes the blind of faith if fans the cause - so the attitude of fans at City must account for their success right?
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Post by oviedista on Aug 3, 2017 18:45:30 GMT
You'd rather the new owners came in on day one and said "Right lads, we're not bothering with UWE it's obviously a sh1te deal, not even going to explore it"? Have you ever bought or sold commercial property? Or purchased bare land for development? Have you ever dealt with a public body like a university in a commercial deal? 18 months is nowt. Hamer says himself - the UWE are a public body it's not like dealing with a private owner who can just say "yup" or "nuh uh" they have to talk to the guy who asks the trustees who consult the board who refer to the department for education. I think your problem with Hamer's lack of answers is actually a problem with your inability to listen. And why does he need to get a new job? He's a football club chairman not a radio presenter. Yet UWE are saying DS have been slow with negotiations, something not quashed by Hamer. The teds are laughing over themselves because views and blind faith like yours are exactly why we are light years behind them and falling further behind the rest of the FL, and im inclined to agree with them. Gasheads = ask no questions, challenge nothing and expect everything. Hang on... so City are in the position they're in because of the negative attitude of their fans?
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Post by oviedista on Jul 30, 2017 9:52:29 GMT
Inevitably, this is fast escalating out of football chat. It's a shame these ideas are so misunderstood and felt as threatening. As the article says the football club provides a sense of community and place that is rare theses days. Where we live in diverse communities it's a pity for both the club and the community if people are missing out on that experience. We are a society made up of difference (disabilities/ gender/race/ religion etc) and a healthy society has spaces that everyone shares and mixes. So if certain groups aren't using those spaces it's worth asking why for no other reason than to make things better (not chastise anyone). Before talking about PC brigades ask yourself what's so wrong with that? I have a friend up North who takes 50 + young Asian kids to Bradford City every home game in his own time. It's about encouraging that community to value those places. They are now a welcome and familiar sight and have become supporters in their own right. Again, if you complain about people not integrating why would you have a problem with that? A great thing about supporting a real local football club is the connection it gives you to the place you are from or live in. I grew up in central Bristol and while I've always got this sense from supporting Rovers, the more mixed the crowd the more it feels like home. He'd need to take 5000 young Asian kids to represent the community though right? So why not take 50? Or 500?
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Post by oviedista on Jul 30, 2017 9:25:20 GMT
Inevitably, this is fast escalating out of football chat. It's a shame these ideas are so misunderstood and felt as threatening. As the article says the football club provides a sense of community and place that is rare theses days. Where we live in diverse communities it's a pity for both the club and the community if people are missing out on that experience. We are a society made up of difference (disabilities/ gender/race/ religion etc) and a healthy society has spaces that everyone shares and mixes. So if certain groups aren't using those spaces it's worth asking why for no other reason than to make things better (not chastise anyone). Before talking about PC brigades ask yourself what's so wrong with that?
I have a friend up North who takes 50 + young Asian kids to Bradford City every home game in his own time. It's about encouraging that community to value those places. They are now a welcome and familiar sight and have become supporters in their own right. Again, if you complain about people not integrating why would you have a problem with that?
A great thing about supporting a real local football club is the connection it gives you to the place you are from or live in. I grew up in central Bristol and while I've always got this sense from supporting Rovers, the more mixed the crowd the more it feels like home.
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Post by oviedista on May 1, 2017 22:02:15 GMT
Worth noting that all the teams with higher attendances have large all seater stadia. It's hard for us to average over 10 000 when that's not far off capacity. ....and a very limited availability of away spaces. How many might some teams have brought if it was a modern all seated away end holding say 4000. {don't say 4000 ! } Yep good point. I think for the big games - like the last one - you could look at adding an extra 4 -5000 including extra home and away fans.
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Post by oviedista on May 1, 2017 21:51:44 GMT
Worth noting that all the teams with higher attendances have large all seater stadia. It's hard for us to average over 10 000 when that's not far off capacity.
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Post by oviedista on May 1, 2017 8:44:00 GMT
Always appreciate your write ups Steve - particularly as I can't get to a lot of games. Thank you.
My beef is just that your criticism isn't always worded fairly. To say Easter has too much "skill and vision" for DC is silly. As if DC would ever think - "no, I just don't like the way he can pick a pass and control the ball". If you think he doesn't work hard enough for DC that's different - but make it clear. It comes across like you think DC is bonkers - which I know you don't.
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Post by oviedista on Apr 22, 2017 16:41:20 GMT
Always thought today would be crazy ... Peterborough seem to be a real hoodo team for us ... Great season but what could have been . Massive summer ahead where we will see the true colours of the owner. If he genuinely wants to take us forward he knows what's needed. Please don't let the buffoon Chairman try and fob us off again. No room either for DCs old pals act ... Thanks for the memories but better players desperately needed now. True colours of the owner. Bufoon Chairman. DC's old pals act. No offence but I hate this way of phrasing things. As if nothing's been done already and everything has to change. I'm happy for DC to continue to invest around the core of this squad, with steady improvements, in the way he knows best. And for the owner to continue to develop the club (through investment) in all the right ways off the pitch.
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Post by oviedista on Mar 6, 2017 9:56:45 GMT
I went to Braintree. It was probably my lowest point as a Gashead - not least arriving late to see opposition players being punched through the goal nets. It was a lovely ground though and beautiful day so I tried to relax and be philosophical.
After a decade of decline and rot, by the evident lack of professionalism within the club from top to bottom - it made no sense to blame DC for where we were. Plus I'd watched the interview with DC at the beginning of the Conference season and saw real hope for the first time in years. Here was a man who was calling out every issue that plagued the club and talking about the much deeper changes that were needed. After Braintree I had no faith in the board but I had every faith in DC - though my belief he could turn things round single handedly less so.
I think these old posts should be looked back on - not to shame anyone - but to make us look at the way we constantly scapegoat unfairly and with ridiculous levels assurance, or just refuse to look at the bigger picture.
Even now look at the reaction to the signing of Lumley. If someone said - "I'm a bit disappointed, I think we should get someone with more experience in - but lets see" Then fine - that's an opinion. But "This is joke, another sh*t keeper - DC has just given up on promotion" - this kind of post deserves bringing up again.
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Post by oviedista on Feb 3, 2017 13:52:33 GMT
SHORT READ: All around the world, from Boca Juniors to Barcelona to North London, fans take the movement of star players to rival clubs on the chin - having a bit of light banter but remaining fundamentally civilized. Not at Bristol Rovers though - where they are all dangerous, foaming at the mouth maniacs.
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Post by oviedista on Feb 3, 2017 13:48:28 GMT
The absurd "wallow"comment aside - this is the most reasonable, considered and realistically positive thread I've read on here in a long time. Faith restored.
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Post by oviedista on Feb 1, 2017 14:51:03 GMT
Do we know that he was treated badly? Or even that he is unhappy with his 'treatment' Just perhaps he was thankful for DC bringing him here in the first place and being honest enough with him recently to give him the chance to find another club to go and get some game time rather than not saying anything and letting him rot in the development/reserve team. yes fair point, as per the last part of my post we don't know what's going on behind the scenes with just about everything to do with the club. A statement from Wael wouldn't go a miss at the moment? If you admit you can't possible know what's going on behind the scenes, why do you post like you do?
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Post by oviedista on Jan 31, 2017 20:19:30 GMT
One of the worse things about this transfer is that its almost certain they got him on the cheap. We dont know the fee but the unpalatable truth is city have got him for peaunuts,even if he fails its no big deal to lansdown. We will be Fed the usual crap from DC "Too good to turn down, Good business for the Club"..... I don't believe a word of it. Miss out on a decent replacement and this is negligence of the highest order, Taylor leaving has been a possibility all month, surely they had something lined up, alternatively it might just be what they wanted to get rid of the highest wage earner ? Sad thing for me is that I don't see Southend or Scunthorpe or Sheffield Utd selling their strikers and certainly not to their most hated rivals!! Four hours left gents.... please show me the club is in better hands than the last members of Box One! I want to believe it but things like this hit confidence hard. Hopefully the "usual crap"/ "negligence of the highest order" DC will redeem himself and move on from football to become a hyperbolic forum poster. Sorry mate but who the hell are you, and what have you contributed, to talk about the most decent, honest and hardworking manager at this club since I can remember? It's not opinion it's insult.
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Post by oviedista on Jan 31, 2017 20:06:32 GMT
Apologies for the un-called for offensive to the poster, today has gotten the better of me! but 3 months with just Gaffers and Ellis up top is mind-boggling. Bar the odd game Here in and there, I'd say around 2 in 10 games they have been infuriatingly poor. Bring back easter, he is 10 times the player Ellis is. What makes my blood boil is the fact we have had months to address this, and here we are 3 hours before the deadline and NO SIGNINGS. In my opinion the likes of Hamer and Wael have to apologise about this shambles. Our season is dead now realistically, and that is down to gross negligence Gross negligence/ shambles/ blood boiling/ mind boggling. Glad you're not a Coventry or Blackpool fan. We've signed players. We won our last game with a clean sheet. We are in a healthy position in the league. Not happy about Taylor thing but seriously...
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Post by oviedista on Jan 31, 2017 20:02:02 GMT
Wow, that's pretty harsh. Not really worth replying to someone whose used two cliches in 3 sentences. But... Just my opinion- we've got a decent crop of strikers. No panic needed. Hard to find better in 6 hours. Giving them a regular chance isn't awful- assess the situation in June. The amazing thing though Mad is it's not six hours to find someone .... it's been all month. If we sign no one its Gross Negligence by all of the decision makers , Hamer, Wael and D.C. ... lose all our February games and all hell will break loose . No. If Trump presses the nuclear button in February all hell will break lose. If we lose all our February games we will drop down the table and some people will get angry on a minor internet forum.
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Post by oviedista on Jan 20, 2017 19:28:37 GMT
Yes Higgs was the one in charge at that time! Caught him out! That means.... his point still stands.
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Post by oviedista on Jan 20, 2017 18:37:53 GMT
Just have to thank our lucky stars we had Holloway at qpr and Jerry Francis at stoke to help us out!!!! As sounds like that's all we could afford... Prefer to thank our lucky stars we finally have an owner and manager with a long term, sustainable vision. It's not going to be like Jack Walker people. But that's ok.
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Post by oviedista on Jan 20, 2017 18:25:14 GMT
There is no way on god's earth that any player or manager doesn't want promotion. Having a long term vision and plan doesn't mean there is no interest in short term rewards - in fact chasing short term rewards is exactly what saw this club fall to pieces until DC arrived.
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Post by oviedista on Jan 19, 2017 16:55:55 GMT
When he arrived it was news. It's not news any more. He's not hiding he's just doing his job.
'Hysteria, madness and witch hunts' are all negative and irrational things. I'm pretty sure where the responsibility lies for this 'aggravation' - and it's certainly not the owner you say we are lucky to have.
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